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| From | Message | Posted by kansaspatzer beck-web.com
6/07/2008 14:03:34 Play online chess | Subject: Philidor Position?
Message: Recently I studied the Philidor and Lucena Positions. Although the Lucena is straightforward enough, I understand the basics of the Philidor but am not sure about how to apply it in an actual game situation or when exactly it comes up. I just finished this game, and I think that around move 66 I missed a chance to utilize this drawing resource. Can anybody tell me if I did?
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| Posted by bonsai beck-web.com
6/07/2008 15:23:12 Play online chess |
Message: You are right you reached Philidor's position (or something very much like it) several times and could have drawn easily.
The position 60.Rxf4 should be an easy draw, not sure why you gave away your f6 pawn, even so it was all still easily drawn, because your king was on the promotion square. With 67...Ra6+ you nicely set up a third (sixth) rank defence (=Philidor's position) which easily holds the draw.
69...Ra7 is still a draw, but why bother with taking the rook of the 6th rank?? Just wait until his pawn has advanced far enough to not give his king any place to hide from checks and then go to the first rank and check him.
In the same sense 71...Ra6 was the right move. 71...Ra5 looses - white could have played 72.Kf6, but he missed that, after 72.Rh7 you could once more have held it with 72...Ra6.
After missing that the defence became more complicated. 75...Re1 would still have drawn for black, but it's harder to do. 75...Kf8 looses. However white doesn't really know what he's doing 77.Ra5 is a pointless move that throws away the win, the rook is great on the 8th rank and one should just play 77.Kd6 to advance the pawn (and if Rd1+ then Ke7).
After 86...Kf7 you've once more got a nice third rank defence, but you once more go for the wrong kind of continuation with 87...Ra5 and this time white punishes it properly and doesn't let the win slip away, again.
| Posted by kansaspatzer beck-web.com
6/08/2008 02:04:22 Play online chess |
Message: Thanks for the detailed analysis. A pure Philidor position, then, is reached when the pawn is on the sixth rather than fifth rank? That is what had thrown me off - once I was at move 70 or so, I assumed that I had already missed my chance. ——— On Chess: Game wading into waves of change — Like so much in contemporary life, chess - like an onrushing river - is characterized by constant change. Bobby Fischer had the equivalent of a dozen or more doctorates in chess. He studied and assimilated - like no one else before him - what seemed at the time to be a massive classical chess heritage. Grandmasters today have access to a minimum database of more than 4 million games, far eclipsing the chess legacy that Fischer inherited - and that database is increasing at an accelerating rate. Setting up the pieces, playing through a game or games and reviewing relevant positions are painfully time-consuming. Fortunately, chess software and the computer screen speed ...
Posted by marinvukusic beck-web.com
6/08/2008 02:31:49 Play online chess | Wikipedia is your friend
Message:
en.wikipedia.org
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Posted by bonsai beck-web.com
6/08/2008 02:49:14 Play online chess |
Message: The position with your king on/next to the promotion square, your rook on the 6th rank as black (or 3rd rank as white) and his pawn on the 5th rank is what is called Philidor's position (or the third rank defence). The way to draw it is to keep the rook on the 6th (3rd) rank until he advances the pawn beyond to the 6th rank, then the rook goes to the first (8th) rank and keeps checking the king. ——— Chennai make bid to host 2012 world title match — Chennai, India, has made a bid, backed by the Tamil Nadu state government, to host the 2012 Vishy Anand (India) verses Boris Gelfand (Israel) world title match. The world chess governing body Fide will now decide between Chennai and an earlier bid from Moscow. Magnus Carlsen, world No1 at 20, and Sergey Karjakin, No4 at 21, are exceptional for their age, yet they now face a challenge from two still younger chess grandmasters who are advancing fast up the rankings. Italy's Fabiano Caruana, 18, took first prize at New Delhi last month and is ranked in the top 20 GMs, while Anish Giri, 17, won the Dutch chess championship by a two-point margin. Giri is reaching his rating targets at a younger age than ...
Posted by ionadowman beck-web.com
6/08/2008 17:54:26 Play online chess | marinvukusic -
Message: -... but asking on the forum is much more fun. bonsai's responses look pretty good to me, at that.
Cheers,
Ion
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Posted by marinvukusic beck-web.com
6/09/2008 04:35:02 Play online chess | Yeah, but...
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Of course if the purpose of the topic is fun that forum is better :) ——— When not seeing is believing — This week Toronto is hosting the 2011 Canadian Open Chess Championship, and although I was not able to participate in the tournament, I had the unique good fortune to be there for the weekend to conduct a blindfold simultaneous exhibition. This is not the first time I have played multiple games of chess while blindfolded, but this one upped the ante. My usual blindfold limit is five boards simultaneously, and I've played with this set up a number of times. But this time I was pitted against six people, a feat I have only accomplished once - and that was more than 25 years ago. Adding to the challenge was the strength of the chess players. Normally, I recommend my opposition to be ...
Posted by ionadowman beck-web.com
6/09/2008 12:57:41 Play online chess | Marin...
Message: ... I certainly have no quarrel with the Wikipedia article(s) in question, having followed up the link you gave earlier. And, aware of these now, one has an easily accessible (and readable) on-line resource for the questions raised here.
But maybe I shouldn't have said "fun" - rather that a discussion of the question is a more ... social way of exploring the topic. Here, it is a more engaging way of studying this kind of endgame.
Cheers,
Ion
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