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| Posted by andy94 beck-web.com 11/26/2008 05:40:15 Play online chess |  Subject: New Kind of Game on Gameknot.Message: I mean games like football or like every team sport. Italy vs United States, for example. Who wants to create a national team, write it on "Team play discussions" and who wants to enter in that team, answer him. About playing, the Captain has to call 15 players and to decide who plays in the own section. There are 10 sections on the basis of rating: 0-1000; 1000-1200; 1200-1450; 1450-1600; 1600-1750; 1750-1900; 1900-2050; 2050-2200; 2200-2350; 2350 and who exceed 2350. The captain chooses one player who has to play, in the respective section, 2 games, one as white and one as black. The captain has to choose 5 substitutes, too. In this way National teams play 20 games and the team with the most number of points (1 for a win; 0,5 for a draw; 0,25 for a lost by # and 0 for a lost by resignation or timeout). If this idea works, nice tournaments can be created! What about this idea? |
| Posted by bonsaiman beck-web.com 11/26/2008 08:00:11 Play online chess | Message: I'm not sure if I'm in for such teamplay, but thats for a person reason (takes time) I hope that your idea will make it to became reality, Succes! |
| Posted by andy94 beck-web.com 11/26/2008 08:47:22 Play online chess | Message: If 2 peoples wants to become the captain of the same National team, the first who wrote it on "Team play discussions" will be it. |
| Posted by ccmcacollister beck-web.com 11/26/2008 08:57:37 Play online chess | National Teams ... Message: * * * * * * * * * But to me, team events that try to create a completely "Class Tournament" type of pairing structure [matching players within classes rather than strongest available], seem pointless. And I feel it encourages "sandbagging" also. So teams have to win by getting the most Underrated players ...rather than best that can be fielded. However, I am sure many players may like it as you suggested, since many DO play on GK teams now. And those in those matches they usually try to pair people closely rated. Then again, that is precisely why I don't play on a GK team now, after trying it in the past. Because of seeming pointless to me, and because I have watched a number of players start out low rated on a team, some as low as 1200-ish after their rating is no longer provisional, then see them go up to 2000+ one win at a time; with virtually no losses. That leaves a bad taste in my mouth. * * * {Not to say it is unique to GK team play as I have seen the same thing happen in APCT . I believe it was one Florida player for instance, who entered himself into the organization as being a "D" player. Then "N." climbed to well beyond 2200 over the next few years, winning virtually every prize tournament he entered that lacked Masters in it. Not to mention manufacturing a time claim against Master he trailed in a team event section or just couldn't beat legitimately. I have probably never been so disgusted from any Chess matter as to watch a Closet-Master entering sections for several years, supposed to be for Class D only, or C, or B and then taking the prize money meant for real Class players.} * * * To see the same happen with a player here on GK was especially irritating. So If there is a National Event held, I hope players will be chosen that will also value representing their country's integrity, at least as much as its Chess. * * * Okay, sorry for the rant Andy. You know, in the past some players have started team matches of GK vs other sites, and these were organized by the player themself and whatever helpers they found/wanted. Rather than being done by GK management .... so if you wanted to try something like you are suggesting, there is nothing I know of to say that you cannot get it started yourself, just like you are, by posting in the Forums for interest, and go from there. Be the Tournament Director if you wish or you can appoint someone if you would rather. Then call for Captain volunteers, etc. If it concerns you tho, you can write GK and ask if it is alright. To me it seems there has been ample precedent however, that players may pretty much do what they wish, that is within the Rules and Laws of GK site. Of course, to be set-up for National Teams with the same structure and capabilities others teams now use would be extra great. Then you would need GK to do it, and there could be minimum membership required of Captains, as teams must do now. Pr perhaps some team fee. * * * Whatever you decide to do with the idea, and how, I hope to see it happen as it is very interesting in any case. Good luck if you do pursue it~! You could probably get a lot of help from other players if you need it. Regards, Craig A.C. * * * * * * * * * * PS ... Something else that would interest me is if there were to be a team event held for whatever players chose to combine to make a small team of 2 or 3, to 5 players ...as many team events do. Again being unrestricted rating average, or quite a high average in the "Open" or highest section. Then perhaps a couple lower sections too. |
| Posted by ccmcacollister beck-web.com 11/27/2008 21:48:05 Play online chess | ANDY94, R-U going to put this in TEAM PLAY Forums? Message: * * * I looked today, but did not see anything posted there from you. * * * * * I'm shocked there isn't more interest shown here, in this great National Team idea~!? And certainly thought there would be more response to it by now. Have you considered it anymore since your first post ? Wondering if any changes, or if you are working up a full description of it, for TEAM FORUM? Also, still don't know if your Captains must meet any special qualifications like a regular team Captain must? Would someone have to Play in it, to be a Captain ...and would there be any need of a Co-Captain(s) ... meaning someone to act as an Assistant to the Captain? And just curious; Were you thinking of Captaining a team yourself, for Italy ? I might consider doing it for USA, if qualified. Or helping out someone else to do it, if needed. * * * * * * * IT seems it would be Extremely Interesting & entertaining to see some of the Teams clash, especially in a Strongest Available pairings method. USA, Italy, Netherlands would all have quite strong potential players~! And who else, I wonder. Quite a few players here from England and Australia. New Zealand & some of the former Soviet nations might have quite interesting teams as well. And who else~?! Hmmmm * * * * * OF COURSE, the USA has the Largest Membership here on GK and is Home of the site ... How could we Expect ANY other country to COMPETE_VS_USA with all THAT . . . / heh-heh }8-D Oh well. . . . Regards, Craig A.C. |
| Posted by andy94 beck-web.com 11/28/2008 06:04:44 Play online chess | Message: |
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