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How do you analyze?
I would like to post an issue I don't believe has been brought up before: How do you analyze your games at GameKnot? Do you use a printout or a real chessboard or something else? I myself use both printouts and chessboard. In complicated positions I use chessboard and in more simple positions I am content with a printout. And when I have analyzed a position I make notes, so I am able to make the next moves fast when I open the game board. What are your experiences about analyzies?
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Would you explain what you mean by a print out and how you utilize it?
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In simple position, when there is only one move,
I just make the move.
Other wise I use Winboard to analyse PGN-dowload of the game.
And I make a lot of notes on papers I have beside my PC. And also I use the gameknot note-option.
Winboard - maybe world's most use (and best) analysing tool, for .pgn (Portable Game Notation)
Good with .pgn is that it can be Opened With notepad.exe, too.
LINK to Winboard:
WinBoard - For 32-bit Microsoft Windows (95, 98, NT, 2000, ME, XP)
Download WinBoard 4.2.6 - alternative download sites
Screen shots and help getting started, by Ed Collins
Print Out= a paper copy created with a Printer
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Using Chessbase 8
I am using chessbase 8. I am storing the gamescore and my analyses, both good and bad, comments, ideas (both text, coloured squares and arrows).
Oh one more thing a lot of time. If I can't see any good move or idea or I am not satisfied with my analyses. I return to the game a few hours or perhaps a day later to see if there is something I missed.
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I use a board and only a board... The feel of wood appeals to me and the cup of java adds to the sweet smell of sitting alone with the mind traveling at hyper speed... And once in a while I have a collogue with a fellow chess player... They say two heads are better than one...
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I do what Stormfogel does but with ChessBase Light. I would love to play out the game with a wooden board and the fresh taste of coffee but, for me, that would take long and I would get lost in the variations.
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to brobishkin: I just wanted to point out that it is not allowed to consult anyone else about your games on GK, as the FAQ clearly states.
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I forgot to mention that when I invite my fellow chess players over to my house... It is usually towards a post mordem analysis... I simply share a brilliant game after the fact to see if there was some other way to avoid disaster...
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Ah, that's okay then, I wasn't sure what you were referring to... This is actually something I'd like to do as well, problem is, I just know hardly any serious chessplayers.
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the java and the wood ..
are key! I'm with brob .. except, since I'm not that good, I run everything through my analysis engine too.
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I analyze same as I would playing game in person . so i depend entirely on my own brain , while i know this will make it much harder to getrating increase . it will also keep me depending on my brain and not some artificial intelligence(chess program - i hate them ). now for players that use that stufff i have no problem -- as long as they do not use it to cheat with - as i have experienced at other sites . i had a player at other site that i had beaten over 20 wins no losses . he ws push over but kept challenging me . one game he played about double my strength when day before he was playing just above beginner level . so i had friend that has chess program run that game . well as you have may guessed my friend told me that players moves matched exactly exactly from beginning to end with his chessmaster program . If I wanted to play against a chess program i do not need a go between player to do moves for the program . i could buy one and play it . now back to my way analyzing is not for eveybody as i do not utilise all the legally available tools to play. but i do increase my ability to depend only on this little brain of mine . seems to work for me my rating is steadying going up!from 1200 to over 1723 in less than few weeks . my way teaches self- reliance . and i believe in that very much . and my dad can go over my completed games to give me advice . which is usually - yes you won but other player could have done this this and this to stop you - your play is too tactical . you need to learn positional play first . etc. my dad much better than me most likely right but i think i can greatly improve my way !! yours bluebabygirl
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Baby blue girl...
Your statement has this ring of truth to it... But I am a firm believer that more than 50% of the Gameknotters here use a computer chess program to simply play their games for themselves... It's the easiest way to play 100+ games in a row with less than 30 sec. per move and a tremendous win ratio at the same time...
Have you ever tried to play these chess programs?... Try to play them and make your move within 30 seconds per move and not one single error (close to impossible)... Now I know some here state that they have a board set up and study (maybe most of the day) some of their many positions at hand... But 100 to 200 games at the same time?... Come on folks... Lets get real here...
I have a hard enough time at an exhibition game playing 20 players at the same time... But these players I play in real life cant use the chess program to help them... Lord knows how hard it would be to play 100 comuter chess programs (set on the hardest setting of course) at the same time, even with the time factor of 3 days per move...
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a very good point and well said . i got up to 29 games and saw that it was just too much trouble i tend to make errors too often even small errors so im now cuting down on 22 now trying for 20.it astonishes me that people cheat that way and also seem to get something from it . what i do not know . when (IT) wins its not them its the chess program!!!!! How can they get joy of winning when the program won not them????I will now say to all you cheaters what i think many honest players would love to say. if you are cheating then you are a very sorry miserable low-life piece of trash!!!!!! and a very poor excuse for a human being!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thanks bro good to know that i have a fellow sympathizer.however if you are honest and can play many games well which many players can then I applaud you .. If I win or lose I do it honestly and my opponent knows he has been in fight , He can take as much joy as he likes in beating me because i will do the same if i win . also win or lose im always polite - showing your opponent respect win or lose is one of the greatest signs of a TRUE chessplayer !! yours bluebabygirl
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I have to admit you make a ggod point about players who manage to play alot of games against strong players with correspondance time controls...almost impossible wihtout "technical assitance." I am currently postponing my gfameknot games and have been playing 'live' chess on USCL, I have not yet played asingle computer cheater, although I have played some progarams, but On USCL almost all of the programs are marked with a (C) and are openly computers, so ypu don't have to play them if you don't want to.
I have even thought of quitting correspondance chess altogetherm since it is so easy to use "assisstance" inthis style of chess. But the human brain is super strong, and I will continue pplaying, but i will keep my games below 20 at a time, maybe even below 10 at atime, since correspondance chess requires alot of thought.
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you are right - this is a vital part of correspondence chess that doesn't get discussed very often.
Having a good system for analysis that works for you is essential.
A handy hint for those who have not yet found somethng that works for them, is to look at all positions (whether it be your move or your opponents) from both sides of the board - in other words use the flip board option if you are working off your computer screen, or either turn the board manually or simply walk around to the other side of the board if you have 1 or more chess sets that you are using.
This tip applies to OTB as well - I made the mistake when I first started playing competitively, of staying in my seat. If you get up, walk around and take a look over your opponents shoulder, this is both good for your blood circulation and very often gives you another perspective of the position.
I have four boards set up in my office and sometimes these are all used to analyse the same game starting from 4 different moves. Once I have reached a point in my analysis where the position isn't clear, I will leave it and then come back from time to time until I think of something that might be worth a try.
As with actual play, analysis shouldn't be rushed - although with our busy lives that is a lot easier said than done!
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kinda close one eye pick a number between 1 and 8 , reach out blindly looking for any piece or pawn then i roll the dice move my little car to park place . sometimes i even shoot free throws til my girlfriend calls . but man the names she calls me . can not repeat here .sorry this how analyse i thought it was how you play . i analyse by shuffling cards picking one then counting backwards match it to a chess piece move that piece to see if it helps the game . later